Cuales son las rolas que deves aprender?

[CesarSC]

HOla como estamos? yo pues aqui con un tema que pienso que es importante. Cuando comenzamos a tocar en un grupo estamos con la mentalidad de tocar lo que a nosotros nos gusta, pero que hay de la gente que va a bailar o que te va a ir a escuchar a un baile en una doba un en unos XV años? Crees que van a bailar "el perdedor" o "el poder de tus manos" bueno, tal vez, yo creo que todo depende del lugar en donde vives. En el Repertorio que tengo con mi grupo como el 50% me gusta y el otro 50% como que no. La cosa esque creo que se tiene que tocar las rolas que mas suenan en la Radio, o las rolas que mas te pide la gente cuando estas en una tocada. Por mi tocaria pura Musica Norteña, de Ramon Ayala, Intocable, Pesado, etc porque es lo que a mi me gusta. Tu que opinas sobre esto? es bueno sacar rolas que escucha la gente aunque las odies? o tocar sola y unicamente lo que a "ti" te gusta? Cual es tu argumento para tu respuesta?? Sale pues espero sus comentarios.

[David Gordon Burke]

For anyone who has problems with Spanish (Is there aryone?) Cesar asks a very interesting question. What it the essential material for a repitoire for a group?
He states that in his group, he likes about 50% of the material that they do and the other 50% is just to keep the people happy. He also states that it probably depends where you live, which I couldn't agree with more.
In all band situations you are probably going to end up playing some material that you don't like, unless you are the star of the show and all the members of the band are "hired guns." If that is not the case, it will probably be a democracy so sometimes you will win, other times you will lose. If you want to play music, it's a fact of life that you need to deal with.
I wouldn't exactly call the Norteña - Tejana audience "Sofisticated," like say for example Jazz fans. A Jazz audience goes to see a show expecting NOT to recognize the songs, and if they do recognize the songs, the version will be massively altered and improvised to the point of hardly being recognized.
Norteña and Tejana fans go to a show expecting to hear songs that they know and expecting that those songs be close or exactly like the versions that they hear on the radio.
I won't give much of an opinion on which songs, what percentage of this kind or that kind because I have no intention of trying to get into a band here in Mexico and when I do get home (Canada) and put together a band, I won't have the same problems because almost no one knows this music. They will like it just because it is new to them and has an accordion.
I will say this, there is a saying in Spanish that states:
El costumbre se hace LEY. (The custom becomes the LAW) Similar to stereotyping in movies. When you think of Al Pacino or Robert DeNiro what do you think of? Gangster or Police Detective. Why? Because 90% of the movies they have done have been either one of those roles.
The point is that to do what you want to do, mix it up in your own style might not please everyone. But some people might really like your style and keep coming back.
In the long run, doing a wide mix of covers will be more difficult at the beginning but later, if you want to mix in originals, then they will be accepted faster and easier by the audience.
My 2 cents.
Stoney

[CesarSC]

Hey thank you Mr Stoney for the translation, U know i feel more confortable writing in spanish. Pues efectivamente creo que en la musica norteña y Tex Mex la gente va mas a escuchar la rola o a bailar, no van a ver un show. Siempre es bueno complacer a la gente cuando vas comenzando un grupo porque si no van a decir que no sabes tocar aunque toques cosas complicadas mejores que las de Los tigres del norte, los originales de san juan o los razos de sacramento. Pero creo tambien q

[CesarSC]

...pero creo tambien que despues de un tiempo de haver copilado algo de experiencia presentandote en bailes pues devemos ir buscando nuestro estilo y traer las rolas de otros grupos y tocarlas a un estilo propio, a un estilo que si nos gusta 100%.

Cesar

[amaya]

I like this topic... to tell you the truth... I think there's a middle ground you have to meet, depending on what the situation of your performance is...
If it's something like a wedding or a fifteen, or something like that, then yea, you're gonna want to play stuff that people like, like huapangos and what not.
But, this last time I was home, that concert I went to of all the local bands, all the other bands kept looking at each other play. Which, in a case like that, I would bust out the most active, hardest thing I know how to play.
I used to be in the drum line back in high school, and not to brag, but I was really good, probably the best in my school district... and every once in a while, anytime our 4 main high schools got together, the drumlines would duke it out, and i would play stuff that would make people pee their pants... it was that bad ass... i kid you not...
anyways, when it comes to something like a battle of the bands, then bust out with what you got, no holding back...
When it comes to actually making a CD or something like that, then you play your own style of music. My style is more like los Gallitos, some catchy stuff with its activeness there, but along with some merengue music thrown in... (I am half salvadorian, too, so I have to.) In that instance, you have to play your own flavor, regardless of what other people think. IT's your music, if people like it, they'll buy it...
So there's always going to have to be compromises on what type of music you're gonna play, but just because it's a certain type of music, doesnt mean you cant play a song that u like... find a median in all this

[sixplaneta]

en lo personal pienso que se deben de aprender a tocar las rolas que anden de moda si es que se van a utilizar en algun evento social llamese boda, xv años, etc.ya que son de un gusto mas generalizado dado el evento; pero mas importante aprender las rolas aque nos hacen sentir vivos ya que son esas las que nos motivan a seguir adelante aunque no sean del gusto general pero que podemos tacarlas en cualquier momento ya que no estamos todo el tiempo en un evento social.