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Post by kevinmccalister on Dec 13, 2004 21:14:27 GMT -5
Hello. I've been playing now since march or so, with a hohner panther. I think that i have gotten pretty proficient. I've learned well over 100 songs (several of them are my own), and i have grown to love playing. My question is... is it worth paying $1000+ for a corona II classic? Will i notice a pleasant difference? or will i just be dissapointed that i spent that much? I would really like to know so i could start saving paychecks... What exactly are the differences in sound? would somebody who has only been playing as long as me even notice? Any help would be appreciated... Thanks!
kevin
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Post by TexasFM3 on Dec 13, 2004 22:10:27 GMT -5
Say Brother,
The amazing thing about the Panther is that is has the same reeds as both the 3500 Corona II and the Classic.
The difference is that the Classic has its reeds fine tuned in Germany. Never the less the 3500 Corona II and Panter have the same reed Blocks.
The only real difference is that you can get the Corona's in different tunings such as ADG, EAD and FBE. The panther only comes in GCF unless you are so luck to get hold of one of the ones that were made with FBE a while back.
Other than that the only thing that you will notice between all GCF boxes are the coverings as the panther is Matte Finish.
Only move to a corona if you want a different tone accordion else stay with the Panther!
Just my 2 cents,
TexasFM3
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Post by Jr Salinas on Dec 13, 2004 23:18:20 GMT -5
Yea Tex Your Right. If You Want A Different Tuning Of Accordion i.e. EAD Then Switch To The Corrona. If You Have A Panther In FBE Then Stick With That One, It Is Rare And You Have The Key To Sing In. But If You Want You Could Also Save Up For A Gabbanelli Or A Ranco Or A Cantabella. I Think The Cantabella Is Better Then A Gabbi.
My Opinion On This.
Jr Salinas
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Post by David Gordon Burke on Dec 14, 2004 10:09:21 GMT -5
I agree completely with these guys. What do you need another accordion for except to get more key combinations?
A lot of guys start on the Hohner or another similar 31 button box and then go on to the Gabby style boxes. However, if you are planning to stick to 31 button boxes, the best reason to get a Corona Classic or a Corona 3500 is to be able to play in other keys.
Stoney
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Post by kevinmccalister on Dec 14, 2004 19:45:54 GMT -5
thanks guys... i will keep that in mind. For the music i play, i find that GCF actually suits it the best, plus i like the lower notes... GCF is the lowest tuning, correct? Do Gabbys and Rancos etc. actually SOUND that much better? I'm looking for a real full, resonant, warm tone... and i just feel that the panther is slightly "tin" sounding...
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Post by David Gordon Burke on Dec 15, 2004 11:18:29 GMT -5
The GCF is not the lowest accordion. The lowest standard tuning is the EAD, but there are Eb boxes as well which are custom tuned. (I think)
I would suggest taking your Panther to a tuner and get him to do an overall tuning job on it. This might cost about $100. I had the same thing done on my Corona 3500 and it sounds a lot better than the standard factory tuning which is a little tinny.
The Gabbys and Rancos have a bit thicker sound (which you pay for) so before you decide on a new accordion, maybe you should try one of them out.
Hope that helps.
Stoney
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Post by TexasFM3 on Dec 15, 2004 13:20:29 GMT -5
Say Brother, The Notes of the 4 major boxes used in Norteno and Tejano music from Lowest sounding to Highest sounding are the EAD FBE GCF ADG The most popular seem to be the FBE for Ramon, Intocable and Chamacos sound while the ADG is primarily for Los Tigres sound  TexasFM3 |
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Post by amaya on Dec 16, 2004 2:05:41 GMT -5
I'm just gonna butt in and throw it out there, that if you are interested in buying another accordion... and seeing how you said that you think GCF suits you best, and seeing how the word Gabbanelli came up... here's the deal...
Even though I don't want to part with it, I can only take one accordion with me whenever I go to Iraq... so my old Gabbanelli (GCF) is not going to be able to go with me... sooo.... I can see myself parting with the accordion if a decent price was thrown out there... I'm not saying its a for sure thing, but it's just an option. But, like everyone knows, money talks... the thing isn't even a year old... I bought it last Christmas when I came back from Japan, and there's nothing wrong with it at all, it's still in very good condition, I haven't dogged it or anything... if you want pictures of it, or hear it, or whatever... hit up my email... I got some clips me and my homeboy just messing around with it, so it'll give you a good sound of the accordion... or even if you just want to listen to a Gabby and what it can do.
this accordion is actually a little bit smaller than most Gabby's since it doesnt have switches... so it might be better, since your moving from a hohner... but it does have the 34 buttons, so that might be different to you, but trust me, going from a hohner to a gabby myself, i like the 34 buttons alot better...
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Post by MEDEL514 on Jan 5, 2005 21:32:45 GMT -5
ANd if you ever want to get rid of the Panther, Hit me up! I've been looking for one for a while now.
MEDEL514@yahoo.com
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Post by JohnGonzalez on Mar 16, 2005 11:48:53 GMT -5
Well, the corona II classic keyboard is made of wood not plastic like the Panther and the Corona II 3500. The buttons are easier to play than the panther buttons. a minor point is The box is better decorated. IMO you should get a FBE.
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Post by JohnGonzalez on Mar 17, 2005 15:21:19 GMT -5
Jorge from Reyes Accordions website:
Well I've used all three of the Hohner Norteño Models and would like to comment on each one's pluses and minuses, especially since this is one of those frequent topics. I am in no way an accordion expert and am basing this ***solely*** on personal experience.
Hohner 3500
I own a Hohner 3500 in GCF I purchased about 3 years ago; that was my first accordion! I've only had to have one reed fixed because it got stuck. I have had no other problems with it in all that time!
The 3500 Hohner is currently offered only in red pearloid color, in FBE or GCF. It is the mid-level Hohner accordion. It has the grill, grill cloth, and bellows of the classics.
It has the pearloid body of a classic with the black plastic keyboard as seen in the Panther.
The sound is about the same as that of the classic, with good tuning, volume, and sound quality. The feel is just about the same, except the keyboard is noisy (though not as much as on the panther), and the buttons are not as loose as on the panther but also not as sensitive as on the classic... not enough that you would notice it in one sitting but enough that you notice it if you play your accordion on a daily basis.
These models usually run somewhere between $550 and $650.
Hohner Classic
The cream of the Hohner crop. These are offered in different colors. (Pictured you have my pearloid brown.)
I own 3 Hohner classics: a White ADG (purchased about 2.5 years ago which has only had two reeds get stuck once each in all that time; no other problems), one Blue FBE (no problems though it did have a lot of vibration at first and either I've gotten used to it or it's reduced over time because I no longer notice it as much)and a Brown EAD i purchased last year (no problems whatsoever so far).
These hohners have the full body & keyboard with the pearloid design, the fancier bellows straps that button in place, the adjustable bass strap, and come with a free (though cheapie) pair of padded shoulder straps and a gig bag.
These supposedly use the same reeds as the other two hohners, but these are fine-tuned. Not that I can notice the difference in tuning; they all sound fine to me. But the sounds is indeed crip and clear, with slighly more volume than the others. The keybard is a lot quieter and the buttons are more sensitive (though I do notice some are more sensitive than others even amongst different classics). The bellows does feel tighter on these and the feel is just better because of some "x factor" i can't put my finger on.
Oh, and these come in all 4 common tunings: ADG, GCF, FBbEb, and EAD.
The classics usually run about $850 and up... some stores here in L.A. try to sell them for the MSRP of like $1350!, so watch out!
If you want a Hohner to play on a daily basis, I definitely recommend a Hohner Classic... the difference, though small, between the 3500 and the Classic is worth the extra cost for the serious player.
Again, those are just my personal views and biases! Hope it is somewhat helpful for anybody out there trying to decide between these different models.
-Jorge Eduardo
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Post by mariog on May 13, 2005 13:05:59 GMT -5
IF YOU KNOW HOHNERS.. YOU WILL KNOW THAT THERE IS NOTHING COMPARE TO THE OLDER HOHNERS.
THE SOUND.. THE FLAT BUTTONS.. THE KEYBOARD ACTION....AND THEY ARE LOUDER AND HAVE THAT CLASIC SOUND.
THATS MY OPINION.. I COMPARED MY 1950'S BLACK JET HOHNER TO A NEW ONE (CORONA CLASIC)
THERE WAS NO COMPETION...
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Post by eazy on May 23, 2005 21:48:20 GMT -5
IN MY OPINION THERE IS A DIFFERNCE OBVIOUSLY IN LOOKS BUT IN BUTTON PERFORMANCE. oF COURSE IF YOURE A BAD ASS IN A PANTHER THEN YOU WILL KICK ASS IN A CORONA.
i OWN BOTH AND WHILE I REALLY LIKE MY PANTHER I PREFER MY CORONA
EAZY
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